Working Title….. Twilight ’49?

Endzeit Weltkrieg Zwei?

So, Twilight ‘49… what is it?

A crazy hybrid fusion of a lot of influences….

My latest project idea, one Mrs. GG is admittedly not a huge fan of, that has had me a bit obsessed for the last couple of weeks.

It is basically a wild mix of Weird War 2, Dieselpunk, Atompunk, Occult Horror, Alien Invasion, Pulp Adventure, Post-Apoc, Retro-futuristic sci-fi, “not-quite-Fallout”, Dust, Konflikt ‘47, Achtung Cthulu, Red Skull & Hydra vs Captain America & the Howling Commandos, Black Sun, Twilight 2000, Chain of Command, Last Days, Five Klicks From the Zone, Zona Alpha, This is not a Test, Gamma World, Aftermath, Wolfenstein, the Keep, the Outpost, Metro 2033, STALKER, Mad Max, Sgt. Rock, Zombies, Giant Spiders, Robots….. etc etc etc.

Suggestions for more inspirational influences welcome in the comments below!

War…war never changes….


OK, I have to admit that for a long time I did not think the world needed more “Space Nazi” miniatures and that influenced my opinion of what I saw of the Eisenkern minis online.

However, now that I am looking at a Weird War 2 (Dust/Konflikt/Achtung Cthulu/Fallout) project I picked up a sprue of the Eisenkern on eBay… and they are great!

Atompunk? Dieselpunk? Post-Apoc WW2?

They look to be the newer WGA Eisenkern rather than the older Dreamforge ones. Great sculpts, lots of options. And if the “Space Nazi” vibe puts you off it is easy enough for a head change to create a completely different look. 

I had wondered if I made a mistake deciding not to pledge for the miniatures of the Castle Wolfenstein Kickstarter but with the Eisenkern I feel like I can make much of what I need.

At the very least the sprues make an excellent addition to your kitbashing conversion bits box. Highly recommended!

And they should go well with our Konflikt ’47 miniatures.

Speaking of Konflikt ‘47… one way we found to save money was to buy damaged products or ones that may not be complete. Here we have some Konflikt Fallschirmjäger missing some arms. I had planned planned to replace them with normal Fallschirmjäger arms but now I may use some Wargames Atlantic Eisenkern instead.

Warlord Games Konflikt and Bolt Action Fallschirmjäger


We have plenty of German Infantry, with at least one sprue of each of the types of Warlord Games Germany Infantry (Blitzkrieg early war, grenadiers, winter and Afrika Corps). 

Warlord Games WW2 German Infantry

I do not have any Waffen SS sprues but I do have some of these troops won in an auction already assembled.

28mm Germans, Italians and French Resistance


As well as various 28mm metal sculpts, as you can see above.

Some of the metal sculpts are a bit small compared to the Warlord plastics. We had won some 28mm “true scale” Perry WW2 plastic miniatures but we put them back on eBay as I found them not really “fitting in” with the more “cartoony” heroic scale Warlord figures. I like the “cartoony” aesthetic for the sort of wacky Pulp vibe I am going for.

This is why I am leaning more toward 1/43 to 1/50 scale vehicles rather than the 1/56 vehicles commonly seen with the Warlord Games’ Konflikt ‘47 and Bolt Action war games.

I will be wanting to also get some of the Wargames Atlantic WW2 German Panzer Lehr when they become available.

If you are curious as to how we afford all this… most of our best deals we find on ebay.

Time not spent painting is spent trawling thousands of international eBay listings, looking for good deals. Snapping up great “buy it now” opportunities before someone else spots it, buying bigger lots and breaking them up, bidding on things incorrectly listed, buying damaged items and in general just getting lucky. We lose a lot more auctions than we win.

Grinding gears…
Panther & Fledermaus

A couple of real gems I found on the British ebay include a historical 1/48 scale Panther and a fictional 1/48 scale Fledermaus from the game Dust.

Dust 1947/Tactics/Warfare

The previous owner of the Panther is a very nice person who had quite a reasonable asking price considering the time that went into painting it, all I need to do I think is add a MG34 for the commander. And except for postage it cost us less than it would have if it had the usual retail store price of the unassembled kit.

1/48 scale Dust Tactics Horten HO-347 aka Fledermaus IV

The Fledermaus was an amazingly lucky find. It is the premium model which I believe came originally painted to a high standard. Again, a great price from a very nice seller. I was surprised no one bid against us considering the starting price. It looks even better in person than it did in the eBay photos so I am really pleased with it. This model is exactly the kind of thing to take the game out of the historical WW2 vibe and into the Weird War 2 setting I am after.

I am going to have to figure out how to use it (and the Mars Attacks Flying Saucers) for Chain of Command. Perhaps a question for the Toofatlardies forum.

1/48 Scale Panzer V Panther

So……….MG34 or MG42? What do you think?

Whenever I think of Panzers I think of this scene from the movie, “Battle of the Bulge”.

These three brilliantly painted vehicles were a find on the German ebay. The Tiger was a bit spendy but the other two vehicles cost about the same as the new retail prices, and the time that went into painting them must have been substantial.

1/48 scale German Armor

The next three are factory pre-built models. Two 1/43 Atlas models and one 1/50 Corgi model. Can you tell which is which?

Two 1/43 German vehicles and one 1/50

Next is a lovely little Luchs… normally Gasoline prebuilt finished models are way outside our budget but we found this one on sale for a fraction of the normal retail price, this time from France.

Panzer II Luchs

Recommended shop…

https://www.promodels.eu

Definitely worth your time to check out their website. Great models and accessories.

Next we have several brilliantly converted 1/43 civilian vehicles.

German Convoy of Captured Vehicles in 1/43 scale

Excellent examples of French vehicles captured and pressed in German military service. I love the possible narrative that naturally springs from such an eclectic bunch of vehicles. Another German ebay find, originally converted by “Bert‘s Military Toys” I believe. Decently priced considering the work that went into them, costing about as much as the unconverted models were priced when first sold retail.

Everything so far should only need some minor detail changes to suit my personal preferences. However, the next lot require a major overhaul. Five Solido 1/50 scale German Half-Tracks.

Solido 1/50 German Half-tracks

I do not know what the deal is with the damaged front tires on old Solido Half-Tracks but these five were won in two different auctions and I notice the upgrade packs available for them from Promodels.EU include front wheels so I get the impression this is a common problem.

I am thinking of accessory kits and new paintwork, probably camouflaged with three of them to be for a Panzergrenadier Platoon. I am not sure about the other two yet.

Suggestions welcome!

So while the Alien Invaders (from Zeta Reticuli) are one of the main villain factions for this project the other is the Occult obsessed Nazis with a Hydra/Black Sun twist.

I am toying with the idea of an anti-Nazi German faction inspired by this real historical incident….

…. perhaps in Twlight ‘49 Hitler and his top cronies were all wiped out by the Zetans, an Allied atom bomb or maybe assassinated in Operation Valkyrie.

This is one of the trickiest parts of this project. Living in Germany I am aware of the cultural sensitivity and social taboo around this topic. However, Nazi Vampires and Zombies make brilliant villains for an atmospheric narrative game. I do not want to appear callous or indifferent to the real historical horrors of the period yet I feel there is a certain poetic justice in portraying Nazis as some of the key villains in this gaming story.

Now for some Yanks!

The Yanks are Coming…

Yes, I know it is a WW1 song…

Most likely the main protagonist faction of this project will be the Americans. Which is a little unsurprising as I am a veteran American Infantry NCO. However, I did serve for 4 months in the British Army on exchange with the Royal Welch Fusiliers and was a British cop for several years… so there is some appeal to focus on British Forces.

But I keep falling back to my familiar nostalgia for vintage GI things.

I have done WW2 historical re-enacting as both US and German soldiers. I love films such as Cross of Iron, Saving Private Ryan, A Bridge Too Far, Sahara, Where Eagles Dare, etc.

So we have a lot of plastic Warlord WW2 US Army miniatures. Infantry as well as paratroopers, which can be easily converted into late war M43 uniformed 

Buying used, incomplete starter sets can help you save money…

To push the alternative history aesthetic I may even go with the US Army Normandy Camouflage.

https://laststandonzombieisland.com/tag/army-normandy-camo/

But that may be a real headache to paint well.

Speaking of alternative history, one reason I want to go that route is that the racial segregation of the WW2 US Army really bothers me. The idea of “white supremacy” is deeply offensive to me, hence one reason the Nazis are a villain of choice.

US Army WW2 Infantry “Buffalo Soldiers”

So the “Buffalo Soldiers” we have are going to be integrated into a more diverse US Army for Twilight ‘49… I figure an Apocalyptic Alien Invasion and World War might just help humanity get over the concept of “racial and gender inequality” a bit quicker.

US Army 92nd Division

I will probably skip unit patches on any of the uniforms but that decision is not final. However I do like the rank patches. I was a Staff Sergeant “back in the day”.

And we have not just American infantry…

1/50 scale American vehicles (except for the jeep, which is 1/43)

At the very least I wanted an M4 Sherman and a platoon of three M3 Half-Tracks. As you can see I am not there yet. The Jeep is cool but will be better when I figure out how to make a driver for it and perhaps a pintle mounted machinegun.

The Jeep is a 1/43 scale Atlas die cast model. The Sherman and Half-Tracks are 1/50 scale Corbi die cast models. The Dodge truck is a 1/50 scale Solido die cast model.

The advantage of the die cast models is the time saved as they come prebuilt and prepainted compared to the usual plastic scale model kits. They are demonstrably bigger than the 1/56 scale vehicles most folks use but I prefer the bigger vehicles in part because I do not intend to have many vehicles on the table at once.

Scale for 28mm war gaming is a funny thing. Many buildings used for 28mm games for example are on the small size, so that they do not overly dominate the limited table size. Same with vehicles.

However, one thing that really struck me when I have seen WW2 tanks in various museums is just how big they generally are.

In the near future I will go over my plans for Allied British Commonwealth and Axis Italian troops. I am still unsure how I am going to treat Soviets. I am leaning toward having them break from the Allies to form a pact with China, similar to the game world setting of Dust. At this stage I have no plans for anything in the Pacific Theater but one of the only WW2 nations that intrigues Mrs. GG is Australia… and I mean need to add the Pacific Theater to convince her to participate in this project.

Although she does also like Agent Peggy Carter…

Agent Peggy Carter!

This has turned into quite the long blog post. Deepest respect to any of you still reading along. Hopefully the blog post sparks some conversation, inspires new projects and provides you some helpful information.

I would love to hear your thoughts on this project. Suggestions, feedback and advice… always welcome!

24 comments

  1. This project checks a lot of my boxes, very impressive. I’ll be looking forward to the progress, in particular the allies. I might have to steal this concept for a Marine Corps squad of my own.

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  2. First off, I like the flexibility of this setting. You can do an awful lot with it which should make it fun from a hobbying and gaming standpoint. I personally think supernatural Nazis are the way to go. That is a huge component of Hellboy’s world and I think it is perfect for what you’re doing. I’m impressed by all of your acquisitions as well. Its true that eBay has plenty of deals if you’re willing to put in the time to look for them. That is how I acquired more cards than I know what to do with (among other things!). I would like to know more about the post-apocalypse side of the setting when you get around to it. I saw hints of it here and I’m curious to learn more!

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    • I forgot to mention Hellboy as one of my inspirations, it definitely is. The Ron Perlman Hellboy that is!

      Part of my thinking on the post-apoc is regional post-Apoc, like Stalker and Zona Alfa. So not as wide spread per se as Falling Skies but perhaps still world wide with the Zetans having destroyed all of the world’s national capitals on the first night of their invasion.

      One idea I have is that the Aliens have shattered the US, claiming the Midwest after their main mothership was forced to crash land by some plucky heroes. West of the Zetan Zone California has seceded and become the NCR (like Fallout). South of the Zetan Zone Texas has seceded and become the Lone Star State (filled with folks unhappy with progressive politics in the surviving USA on the East Coast. The Mississippi is a heavily defended border. Things get progressively worse the deeper you get into the Zetan Zone.

      Some things I will be mixing from other sources like Konflikt and Dust but some will be my own.

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      • That’s good to hear. I thought of Hellboy immediately when reading your ideas. I really like the post-apocalyptic ideas too. They sound pretty interesting and unique to me! I’ll be looking forward to seeing more as you get time to work on this project.

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      • Such a big vision, with heaps of ideas. I wonder if you need to pick a corner and start to build a couple of forces and try some games and/or rules. The rules might the tough part, whether it is finding something out of the box or adding the right mix of home brew.

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      • I tried Bolt Action awhile back, not my thing. I have been studying Chain of Command and that seems more satisfying for my desires. This project really is window dressing for that. The idea of also have something like Last Days is really just a secondary thought as Mrs. GG and I enjoy Frostgrave so much. She is more likely to try a smaller cooperative skirmish game than something like Chain of Command.

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  3. You are never one for half measures are you 😁 All in or nothing. Seeing the vehicles wants me to pull out my brothers and my old Dinky tanks and trucks.
    Curious how you are going to merge the rule sets or are you just going with Konflick’s 47? Looking forward how you do your gaming table for these battles.
    Funny you mention those movies, I was watching Kelly’s Heroes as I read your post.
    Watched Vikings Valhalla on Netflix (don’t bother, budget and story seemed half of what Vikings was) Made the mistake of watching a new episode of Walking Dead, totally lost on what is going on but still seemed oddly familiar. Cleansed my viewing by watching the Elizabeth Taylor Cleopatra for the grand scale of everything in it.
    What’s your priority for painting your new acquisitions?

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    • I am definitely a go big or go home kind of guy.

      For rules I am thinking both Chain of Command for platoon ops and Last Days for smaller skirmish stuff. I plan to use Dust, Konflikt, and Achtung Cthulu to modify the Chain of Command gaming. With Zona Alfa, This is not a Test, Stargrave and what not to modify Last Days.

      I love Kelly’s Heroes. The level of wacky in that movie is the kind of thing I am aiming for in this project. You might call it satirical even.

      Too bad about Vikings Valhalla, thanks for the warning. It was on my watch list but I never even finished Vikings. Every season after the first it got progressively worse. After Ragnar died it became pretty much unwatchable for me and Mrs. GG. She totally gave up on the show but I planned on finishing it one day just out of a sense of completionism.

      We are looking forward to the new season of Last Kingdom. We just finished season 4 of the Last Ship so Last Kingdom is next on the roster.

      Not sure when I will get to see the latest season of Walking Dead.

      I do not really have a painting priority list. I will just paint what I fancy I suppose but all that has to wait as my current painting time is devoted to restoration work to put on eBay to help pay for continuing the hobby.

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  4. Good call on using the right rule set for the scale and participants of the battle you’re doing.

    You could almost see the director calling action for the extras in Valhalla and they were trying too hard to have the female lead be another Lagertha (fyi, they failed)

    Did you ever try All of Us Are Dead? Curious what you thought of the police officer in several of the episodes.

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    • I started watching All of Us Are Dead and it was not capturing me… but then Kingdom took awhile to take hold with me as well so I guess I should give All of Us are Dead a second shot… especially now that you mention there is a recurring police character.

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  5. This looks like it’s going to turn into an epic project, so I’m going to enjoy following it! 🙂 I think you’ve got more than enough ideas that will combine well. And that is a really nice haul of troops and vehicles! Have to agree with you on diecast stuff – it can give you an easy start on getting vehicles for your forces. And not sure where you’ll get them, but you’ve got to get rocketmen!

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  6. This. This looks like a tremendous amount of fun and a great project to sink your teeth into. I’m impressed by the range and quality of your online finds! I too love the vintage GI look – I’m in the midst myself of a project bashing Warlord Games US troopers with Games Workshop Imperial Guard to create some Warhammer 40,000 GIs.

    I don’t know that I could suggest other influences to add to the game, though your talk about an alien-occupied Midwest reminded me of an episode of Love, Death & Robots where a family of farmers uses their mech suits to fight off hordes of giant bugs. I need to give the series a re-watch..

    Thanks for sharing this! Eager to see where it goes from here!

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  7. I went through a breif Public Domain comic phase where I really got into atomic war comics. There was something about the 50’s stark portrayal of destructions contrasting some of the goofiest sci-fi weapons and gadgets that I find utterly fascinating. Books like Atomic Attack, and Atomic-Age Combat are still some of my favorite comics of all time.

    https://comicbookplus.com/?cbplus=atomic

    I’d love to play a game.with some of these influences, or just build up a diorama or two.

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    • Thanks for taking the time to comment. I appreciate the link and quite agree with you..There is something fascinating in the mix of goofy and grim. I think perhaps it lends it an air of satire that makes the horror digestible.

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